tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1330122295413844269.post6965496826913186411..comments2023-11-06T04:36:10.980-08:00Comments on emperumAnAr dharisanam: virOdhi parihArangaL - 46Sarathy Thothathrihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15202594856744938181noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1330122295413844269.post-64047564744684369332021-04-30T17:08:32.770-07:002021-04-30T17:08:32.770-07:00In telugu - https://srivaishnavagranthamstelugu.wo...In telugu - <a href="https://srivaishnavagranthamstelugu.wordpress.com/2021/05/01/virodhi-pariharangal-46/" rel="nofollow">https://srivaishnavagranthamstelugu.wordpress.com/2021/05/01/virodhi-pariharangal-46/</a>Sarathy Thothathrihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15202594856744938181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1330122295413844269.post-55941541483677135862019-09-21T01:31:36.320-07:002019-09-21T01:31:36.320-07:00In hindi - https://srivaishnavagranthamshindi.word...In hindi - <a href="https://srivaishnavagranthamshindi.wordpress.com/2019/09/21/virodhi-pariharangal-46/" rel="nofollow">https://srivaishnavagranthamshindi.wordpress.com/2019/09/21/virodhi-pariharangal-46/</a>Sarathy Thothathrihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15202594856744938181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1330122295413844269.post-28388254961264225052014-12-12T21:35:13.531-08:002014-12-12T21:35:13.531-08:00dhanyOsmi for the mangaLAsAsanams.
It is adiyen&#...dhanyOsmi for the mangaLAsAsanams.<br /><br />It is adiyen's fortune that srIvaishNavas read and appreciate these humble efforts of adiyen which happen purely by the grace of emperumAn, AzhwArs and AchAryas.<br /><br />There is no audio series of this yet - adiyen have not heard any one giving full fledged lecture on this grantham.<br /><br />adiyen will be preparing an e-book shortly containing all the articles and will send that once that is ready.<br /><br />adiyen sarathy ramanuja dasanSarathy Thothathrihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15202594856744938181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1330122295413844269.post-34748601758216135852014-12-12T21:21:47.275-08:002014-12-12T21:21:47.275-08:00Dasohams Swamy,
Adiyen cannnot express thanks for...Dasohams Swamy,<br /><br />Adiyen cannnot express thanks for the wonderful series that was graced to us. Adiyen was fortunate to read thru some of this series and would like to keep reading as many times as possible. <br /><br />It would be a great bhagyam if there is any audio version of this series so this can be heard. Please send any audio or pdf's ones this is compiled to a single document to email pradeepbhattar@gmail.com if possible<br /><br />Adiyen wishes all the auspicious things and mangalams to you swamy.<br /><br />Pradeep Ramanuja DasanAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06497384002020907123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1330122295413844269.post-3034690895287035392014-12-11T22:05:20.109-08:002014-12-11T22:05:20.109-08:00Dear sudharsan swamy
Thanks for the feedback and ...Dear sudharsan swamy<br /><br />Thanks for the feedback and nice questions. adiyen will try to answer as much as adiyen understood in this topics.<br /><br />Question 1:<br />a) Swamy does this mean that they do not do acharya Kainkaryam or bhagavatha kainkaryam there<br />Ans: This principle is explained nicely in last pAsuram of kaNNinuN chiRu thAmbu. madhurakavi AzhwAr says, one who believes in his words will reside in paramapadham. In vyAkyAnam, there is a question - why madhurakavi AzhwAr says paramapadham instead of AzhwAr thirunagari (which is the place of nammAzhwAr). In one of the explanations, it is explained that parampadham is fully working based on AzhwAr (representing nithyas/mukthas) desires - i.e., eternal kainkaryam to emperumAn. that is why it is called vAnavar nAdu - that which is controlled by the devotees of that world. So, whatever kainkaryam happens there it is most dear to AchArya/bhAgavathas. This concept of bhagavath/bhAgavatha/AchArya kainkarayam as that kainkaryam which is "dear to" bhagavAn/bhAgavatha/AchArya in detail in srIvachana bhUshaNa dhivya sAsthram also.<br /><br />b) So, does this mean one should engage only in kainkaryams and not directly enjoy bhagavan's kalyana gunams? Or, one can do both?<br />generally - guNa nishtar and kainkarya nishtar - both are glorified. munivargaLum yOgigaLum in thiruppAvai explains this concept. one who meditates on qualities is muni and one who is together always (serving) is yOgi. there is also "bhagavathanubhava janitha prIthi kAritha kainkaryam" - the guNa anubhavam naturally leading to kainkaryam. So, both are there - but ultimately kainkaryam is emphasised in dhvaya mahA manthram, etc. meditating on his guNams is also a kainkaryam - mAnasIka kainkaryam in one sense.<br /><br />2. avAptha samastha kAmathvam (no more desire) vs bhagavan mukOllAsam (feeling bliss when accepting kainkaryam)<br />Both are valid - since both have pramANam. As such bhagavAn does not have any unfulfilled desires. But it is the nature of sEsha bhUtha (jIvAthmA) to serve the sEshi. sEshikku adhisayaththai viLaikkai sEshabhUthanukku svarUpamum prApyamum (it is true nature as well as goal for the servant to bring glories to his master). so, for bhagavAn too, its natural to have bliss when he is served - this is not extraneous, it all happens naturally. both jIvAthmA and bhagavAn manifest natural love and affection for each other. Just like mother and child share their love for each other without any additional expectation from each other.<br /><br />adiyen sarathy ramanuja dasanSarathy Thothathrihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15202594856744938181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1330122295413844269.post-24185287228387053622014-12-11T21:39:02.754-08:002014-12-11T21:39:02.754-08:00Dear Sarathy Swamy,
Srimathe Ramanujaya Namah,
T...Dear Sarathy Swamy,<br /><br />Srimathe Ramanujaya Namah,<br /><br />Thank you very much for this fantastic article. its devareer's mighty grace that adiyen can get knowledge on these lofty matters in such simple format.<br /><br />adiyen wanted to ask 2-3 small questions which are beyond grasp of adiyen's tamasic capacity :<br /><br />1. Devareer has mentioned : "bhagavath saundharyam (bhagavAn's beauty) which is an obstacle for AchArya kainkaryam (here) is the main obstacle for kainkaryam (service) in both this world (samsAram - material world) and the other world (paramapadham - spiritual word)." Swamy, we have heard that in parama-padham, nityas and muktas continuously enjoy the divine beauty of Bhagavan. (sada pasyanti suryah). They keep on watching him without closing their eyes and have uninterrupted Bhagavad anubhavam. So, Swamy does this mean that they do not do acharya Kainkaryam or bhagavatha kainkaryam there. I.e they are periods where they do bhagavan's kalyana guna anubhavams and periods in which they serve Bhagavathas etc.. <br />Swamy, also there are many instances like Kannan enjoying rasa-kreedai with gopikas, Nammazhwar enjoying Bhagavan's pastimes, thirumeni, gunangal etc. So, there is sanction of enjoying bhagavan's kalyana gunams as well? So, does this mean one should engage only in kainkaryams and not directly enjoy bhagavan's kalyana gunams? Or, one can do both?<br /><br />2. Swamy, we have understood that in nitya vibhuti, all muktas and nityas, there is constant uninterrupted kainkaryam for Bhagavan and Piratti. Generally in leela vibhuti, we generally serve someone in which the recipient is need of fulfilling some desire(money, education, health etc) and the doer of service also expects some form of reciprocated wealth for meeting demands of body, soul, mind, family, society etc. <br /><br />In nitya-vibhuti, Bhagavan is avaptha-samasta-kaman, He has already all wishes fulfilled and has nothing more to fulfil.. So, if infinite nityas and muktas keep on doing service to Him there, what is the need to Bhagavan to get served? I.e if someone serves Bhagavan, what does Bhagavan achieve by getting served? What desire of Bhagavan gets fulfilled? <br /><br />Say, for example, here in samsaram we bath because our dirt should get removed, we become clean and also become eligible for daily anushtanams etc. Whereas in nitya vibhti, BHagavan has tirumanjanam, what is Bhagavan's wish or desire or happiness in getting tirumanjanam. Also, How for eternal time, He will keep having tirumanjanam? It might be explained that tirumanjanam is an activity in which perumal simply enjoys displaying uncountable kalyana gunams, takes pleasure that so many souls take part in making Him enjoy the divine bath. and He displays so many intimate relations with each soul during that kainkaryam. Similar will be the nature of each kainkaryam there.<br /><br />So, it is said in this light that Bhgavan;s tirumeni, ayudhams, gunangal are for His adiyars and not for Him. Na te roopam slokam. So, Bhagavan accepts so many services, displays so many gunangal etc for His adiyars and adiyars fully function for pleasure for Bhagavan.<br /><br /><br />Please, kindly please enlighten and give clarifications.<br /><br />Thanking you,<br />SudarshanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com